Sourdough starter woes? Use old dough (2024)

Learn to bake bread and you’ll encounter all kinds of French words: autolyse, boule, banneton. Today’s French bread phrase: pâte fermentée, or pre-fermented dough. Cut off a chunk of your bread dough before baking and you’ve got pâte fermentée.

Traditionally, bakers add a piece of old dough to their next batch of dough to add depth of flavor. But you can also use old dough as a substitute for sourdough starter. Feed the old dough with water and flour, just as you would a starter. Then use it in a recipe. No need for a separate starter that you have to keep alive between batches.

Here are step by step instructions with crappy yet informative pictures from my very own home kitchen.

  1. Cut a chunk of unbaked dough.

Make bread dough using commercial yeast, or get some refrigerated pizza or bread dough. Before baking, cut off a chunk of dough. Around 3–4 ounces is good, a little smaller than the size of your fist.

Ideally your old dough would contain only flour, water, and yeast. It will still work if your dough has additives like oil, butter, eggs, or dairy, but you won’t get as much rise. So if you’re making your own dough, try to set some aside before adding extra ingredients.

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2. Feed old dough with water and flour.

Add 1/2 cup (four ounces) of water and 1 cup (four ounces) of flour to your old dough. More is also OK, as long as you keep the ratio the same. In this photo I used 1.5 cups of water.

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Stir it up. It doesn’t need to be completely smooth. It’s OK if some of your old dough remains in lumps.

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3. Let sit, covered at room temperature, until it doubles in volume.

You will see visible bubbles on the surface. You should see them pop and new ones appear. Now you have essentially made a sourdough starter.

This will take anywhere between three hours and overnight. Leaving it overnight is fine.

If brown alcoholic-smelling liquid appears on top, then you’ve let it go too long, but you can still use it — just go back to step 2 and add more flour and water. Pour off or stir in the liquid, either is fine.

My container was too small for it to double, so I stopped here. It took about three hours.

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4. Proceed with whatever bread recipe you want to make, using your mixture in place of sourdough starter. Save a chunk of dough before baking and go back to Step 2.

If you plan to bake again:

  • within the next 24 hours, leave your old dough on the counter, covered.
  • within the next 3 days, store it in the fridge.
  • longer than that, store it in the freezer.

Bring your refrigerated or frozen dough up to room temperature by leaving it out for several hours or overnight before going back to Step 2.

Here, I mixed in whole wheat flour, oats, and chia seeds. I took out a piece of dough for next time — my pâte fermentée — before adding the oats and chia seeds.

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Why does this work? Because bread, at its essence, only requires flour, water, time, and heat. Starter, sponge, poolish, biga, barm, and the various other flavors of pre-ferments all supply flour+water+time. Using an already-mixed piece of dough rather than maintaining a separate starter simplifies the process.

Where does this technique come from? I invented it over years of bread baking. While I haven’t read this exact process in a book, my guess is a lot of other bakers have also come up with the same idea on their own. Experiment with bread and you’ll invent your own techniques too.

Happy bread baking!

Sourdough starter woes? Use old dough (2024)

FAQs

Can you use old dough as a starter? ›

Traditionally, bakers add a piece of old dough to their next batch of dough to add depth of flavor. But you can also use old dough as a substitute for sourdough starter. Feed the old dough with water and flour, just as you would a starter. Then use it in a recipe.

Can old flour ruin sourdough starter? ›

short answer, yes, though it takes far longer for AP flour to go bad. I've had dull Bob's Red Mill Dark Rye that smelled fine and was still long before its 'use-by' date screw up my starter (fortunately, the switch to a fresher local brand led to a full recovery.)

What happens if you use old sourdough starter? ›

The beneficial bacteria and yeast in the starter create acidic conditions that help to naturally preserve it and ward off mold. That's not to say an old neglected sourdough starter doesn't look and smell pretty funky though! But more often than not, it's still alive and okay to use.

How to tell if your sourdough starter is bad? ›

Typical signs of food spoilage and mold include pink, orange, or green colors, white fuzzy spots, or sometimes areas that are darker with white areas on top. If you see any of these signs, I would recommend throwing your starter away and creating a new one.

What happens if you use expired dough? ›

A bad pizza dough contains harmful bacteria like E. coli and Salmonella, which can cause food poisoning with symptoms of diarrhea, vomiting, nausea, or abdominal pain.

How much old dough to use? ›

You then make the new dough and mix it with the old dough and knead the doughs together. The old dough may be about 20% of the weight of the total dough being made. Once mixed, kneaded, and fermented, a 20% piece is removed to be the pâte fermentée. The rest of the dough can be shaped, proofed and baked.

How do I know if I killed my sourdough starter? ›

Keep feeding your starter, and you'll see normal activity (bubbles) return in a few days. If your starter has a bit of dark liquid on top, it's not dead! It simply means it's hungry and that it's time to feed it. Unless your starter has a pink or orange hue or is beginning to mold, you probably haven't killed it yet.

Can I use 10 year old flour? ›

While using flour past its date is fine if there are no signs of deterioration and it has been stored properly, it won't yield the same results as fresh flour.

When to throw away sourdough starter? ›

After a few days, your daily 1/4 cup flour and water won't be enough to sustain your entire jar of starter, and your starter will be slow and sluggish, not much better than discard itself.

How do you know when sourdough has gone bad? ›

It's pretty easy to tell when sourdough bread has gone bad because it will be covered in visible signs of mold growth and will feel hard both inside and out. It may also smell bad too, but not always. Once it's past the fresh stage (first 24 hours) you will notice some deterioration in crust and crumb.

How to revive a sad sourdough starter? ›

Take 50g of starter from the jar and feed it another 100g of flour and 100g of water. Leave the starter for around 12 hours. After this second feeding it should double. If it does then it's ready to use.

Should I pour the hooch off my sourdough starter? ›

If your sourdough starter forms hooch, mix the hooch back into the starter before you discard and feed. The only time I would consider pouring the hooch off your sourdough starter is if it has been stored in the fridge for a long time and the hooch is very dark.

Should sourdough starter be in the light or dark? ›

A sunny window sill can be a great pace to keep your starter, however you will want to cover the jar or wrap it in a sock to ensure your sourdough starter is not exposed to direct sunlight. A happy starter prefers a warm, dark place.

What temperature kills sourdough starters? ›

Too Hot (90 degrees or above): If the temperature of your dough is too hot, yeast will ferment quickly, often adding a more sour flavor to your bread. Temperatures above 120 degrees can kill the yeast. I try not to add water above 100 degrees Fahrenheit to my sourdough.

How long can you keep a starter dough? ›

Yes, it's safe and possible to store your sourdough starter if you want to take a break from baking bread. You can store your starter for short periods (up to a week or three) in the refrigerator, or months by drying it out, or even years by completely dehydrating it and saving the dried pieces in a sealed container.

Can you cook with old dough? ›

Yes, of course. In fact this is something I usually do a lot, but with croissant dough or Danish dough leftovers. I never throw them away.

What happens when dough gets old? ›

If the dough has a strange or abnormal color, such as gray or green, it may have gone bad due to bacteria or mold growth. If the dough is sticky or slimy, it may have gone bad due to bacteria or yeast growth. If the dough is hard or dry, it may have gone bad due to drying out or being left out for too long.

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